"what is the point of all this arguing?"

A fair question, and in fact I hope the thread will go away at some point. However, viciousness and dishonesty of the kind displayed by Jim Carroll should not go unchallenged, ever.

He has called Keith "racist", "moron" and "tosser" on this and the related thread because Keith called him on his assertion that "no travelers" signs are, not were, common throughout Britain. I have followed this thread with some interest and a few things seem clear:

1. No travelers signs may have existed, but if they exist at all today, they are vanishingly rare.

2. Jim's personal knowledge of no travelers signs dates back several years, and even then they were not common.

3. Even people who are probably more closely aligned politically with Jim than with Keith don't agree that no travelers signs are (not were) common in pubs throughout England.

4. Jim has not provided any evidence that no travelers signs are, not were, common in pubs in England.

5. Keith has writte not one word that justifies the label racist.

6. The fact that Jim has sympathy for the mistreatment suffered by travelers is no kind of excuse for his conduct on these threads.