Richard, I did read all his posts. It's not that different from attempts many of us made in introductory philosophy/logic courses to use an 'if....then' type of argument, and to see how ridiculous we could find topics to argue about using some form of 'logic' to support them.

In this instance, of course, as has been pointed out, songwronger is making a supposition that anything paid through taxes means that it is 'imposed'. From a logical point of view I could talk about the difference between a measure being 'imposed' and 'supported'.

But a lot of good points have been made trying to refute songwronger's logic......but they either haven't hit home to songwronger, or he's just choosing to remain provocative.

I'm not particularly interested in getting hooked in to disputing this so-called logical argument, because I don't feel it's very important.

Much more important is (a) How we as a group conduct ourselves when we feel frustrated.....can we respond without attacking a person's character?   and (b) The genuine expression of outrage from lizzie cornish about how this thread trivializes a truly serious subject....which is genocide. I think her comment is well worth reading and re-reading.    It's for that reason that I really don't want to enter into this debate.

But I do want to encourage all of us to respond in a respectful and 'human' manner.