One of the wonderful aspects of debates on mudcat.org is that if you exhibit behaviours the last generation fought a war to put a lid on, you gradually find yourself with nowhere to go, no support, no opportunity to push your offensive agenda.

Lovely to think a bit of name calling and childish abuse helps somewhat. It's what I like doing according to some. Doubt it is clever of course, but best keep clever comments for clever people.

Reminiscing over when hate was socially acceptable is perhaps the last gasp and tomorrow a butterfly might appear from the worm. Be nice to discuss dogs, deep fried Mars bars and haggis appreciation but not easy when he is wearing his black shirt.

Mind you, you can't educate pork.