Joe,

"Nobody cares what you believe or don't" is unfortunately not true. If we accept the Constitution, then this should be true but it is also true that threads like this are started by people who want to trash those who are non-believers. My thread was posted in reaction to this.

I am increasingly amazed at the vitriol that people have who do not want to discuss their religious beliefs rationally. It should be no different than those wanting to discuss their political, musical or economic beliefs. There is nothing sacrosanct about a person's belief system that can't be discussed in a rational, civilized manner.

There is the problem that in most cases, religious beliefs tend not to be rational and this is borne out by the role of religion in politics, today and the fanaticism of those in the military industrial complex and the air force who are trying to Christianize the public.

Those who are annoyed by this discussion are generally those who may not be sincere in their belief systems. Otherwise they have the right to opt out and not respond.

I still maintain that there is a large percentage of religious people who take it upon themselves to deride or degrade non-belief because of their indoctrination.

I welcome a rational discussion on this topic and have thrown no crap at people who are religious personally but I think that religion has had a track record of violence, vitriol and superstition not to mention the obnoxious behavior of evangelism.

This is a worthy topic of conversation.