I've always been so envious of the person who could hear a tune once and sit down at the piano and play it. I read music, but have learned most of my repertoire just in hearing a song I liked and working out the chords on my guitar. I don't really think there's much difference in how you learn something as long as it means something. Art (loved the pun ... do you remember "Mitch, Skitch, and the Bitch?") ... I agree with you about being a "loner." I've never had much luck with groups because I never sing a song the same way twice. And, I've never much liked groups the size of New Christy Minstrals or Serendipity Singers, preferring trios or quartets. jenny