Interesting......lighter says evolution is irrefutable.....and mrrzy says nothing in science is irrefutable.   Now, I wonder who is going to refute who.    They do both believe evolution is true, and both believe the evidence says so.   Marry seems to blame American education for me being a biblical creationist, even though I,m English. She is certain we won't find a pre Cambrian rabbit, but the Cambrian explosion strongly suggests no evolution prior to this supposed era. And then, I have not forgotten all that perishable stuff surviving supposed myo. Who is not facing up to the evidence?          I think science geek may be behind the times in her claim that there is evidence of kinship between man and monkey. The nature of that two or more percent difference is , I hear, much wider since more recent findings.   I also hear that we share 50 percent genetics with bananas.   I am tempted to a little joke here ! She also thinks dinos ought to be named in the bible, but terrible lizards were not so named till more recent history, but they are included in what God created, and are described, in probability, in job, and elsewhere.                         Dmcg, not sure what your point is, except you seem to assume that adaption and variation is not part of the creation model. Creationists actually wrote about it before Darwin . I don't see how it has any bearing on goo to you via the zoo evolution.   I suggest it is observable and testable science,, rather than Darwinian concept.    But thanks for a civil post.