do you realize how much you sound like Jehovah's Witnesses?

unkind and untrue and unworthy comment, Joe.

we sound more like frustrated teachers who are trying to present important information to contrary pupils... been there, done that.

if there is any one like a Jehovah's Witness, it is pete who freely admits to coming into this thread to prevent an agreefest... and never once admits that his distorted view of the world is anything other than absolute god given truth... when in fact he is part of a highly vocal MINORITY of christians that is doing religion no favors with their behavior.

I find myself sickened by his smug, complacent attitude that his form of ignorance is superior to sane and rational objectivity...

and here in the USA, pete's counterparts are being manipulated by people like Karl Rove and Koch brothers to vote in politicians who give lip service to democracy, while they attempt to turn us into an oligarchy. fundamentalism is every bit as dangerous as communism was 50 years ago because it relies on dogma and the desire of leaders to control everything they can get away with.