Mav, I don't care what you do for work. You obviously feel superior to anyone who works for minimum wage (or in that vicinity). Any job that someone does is not menial. Comparing them to chimpanzees is pretty demeaning if you ask me. Oh I forgot you don't name call do you?

As far as union thuggery goes what are you talking about? Are you talking about the miners JD Rockerfeller had machine gunned. Do you mean the strikers Henry Ford had beaten and shot. Do you mean people who get upset when they are replced by strikebreakers. Oh hell let's use the real word, SCAB. Pete Seeger once said about the scab "that he can always make living on the money he takes from blind mens' cups". Do you think there is a fourty hour work week, strong anti-child labor laws and yes even the dreaded minimum wage because the owners feel some sense of obligation to their emplyees? They would still have tus working for fifty cents an hour.Do you think they provide fitness centers, vacations,and paid sick days out of the goodness of their hearts? Unions and the fear of unions being organized in their workplaces got these items put into place. Hell the mill owners have more respect for their cattle. They at least call them heads. They call their employees hands. As for the beer I've liked Pabst ever since I was in the Navy. The fact that I drink beer however does not enter into the conversation unless you feel that everyone has screw up his courage with a bottle like you do. Thom