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Paul Burke Paris massacres Nov 13, 2015 (180* d) RE: Paris massacres Nov 13, 2015 21 Nov 15


Even assuming that it's not yje wrong desd bidy
Thanks for a (presumably inadvertent) laugh in a desperate situation.

Now consider this- that these people might not be simply evil. They might not be just out for the virgins. They might actually think they are doing it for the good of the world, and a few eggs need to be broken if there's going to be an ommelette. They see a corrupt and hypocritical society - in Iraq, Afghanistan, Arabia, Syria, Lybia, France, Britain and almost anywhere you look- and they think they have a way of putting it right. If people would follow Islam properly- not just lip service to bits of it- all would come right. We get paradise on this earth, here and now, no need to wait for houris. They are so committed to the service of humanity that they will willingly die for it, which is what gives them the edge over mercenary or conscript armies, or risk- assessed technology operators.

It won't be the first time- I knew Catholics in the 60s who were committed Soviet communists, who knew that the stories about Stalin were just capitalist propaganda. I've known and respected IRA supporters. And I've known Americans who knew that their interventions in other countries were pure in intent. It's probable that there were Nazis who really thought that they were improving the world.

So let's try to address this problem intelligently- look first to our own failings. Do we support democracy? If so, why did we not support the demnocratically elected Hamas government in Gaza, and why did we allow the military to take over in Algeria all those years ago? And if we don't, let's stop pretending we do and start saying what our real values are.

Gnothe seon - know thyself. And study your enemy as he is, not a cardboard cutout.


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