WHOOOAAAH! Atheists, Pete7stars, are as capable of holding and maintaining notions moral and ethical as are theists or the card-carrying members of any "theistic" group. You are making a judgement:" they have no ultimate standard to make a call on moral standards , but equally they can make up or change prior standards". Pete ~ you … [lack of appropriate term]. And we all know that no theists or card-carrying club members has|have EVER changed "prior standards". [Lord's name in vain] Peter! one does not need deity to have ethical standards back 2 the mandolin, half hoping there's some glitch & this doesn't post. But I had a moral obligation to challenge this unsupported and unsupportable notion. BS=BS I guess this is my contribution 2 the manurepile … dennis
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