Steve, Here, look it up yourself..and take your pick!

GfS

P.S. I'm sure you'll not believe it and dismiss it..because one thing that your upbringing in Catholicism, in which you still resent, has left you with, is the exact same mindset!..For instance, when someone 'does you an 'injustice' (and I'm not disputing that!), and you carry that in you, and can't get over it, it's called 'emotional focus' (in the psyche sciences)..and though you might reject the people that 'did it to you'..BECAUSE you keep a focus on the 'perceived wrongs' you WILL end up being just like them!..True story!....Now the Catholics are no doubt, 'rigid and dogmatic' (another psyche term)..and though you reject their teachings, what damage that is left you, and you focus in on that, has left YOU rigid and dogmatic!! .....and just as closed-off mentally as they are...so much so, that your inner being is probably even more Catholic, that Joe Offer, whom you criticize, for being Catholic!!...and what I just laid down for you, is NOT particularly coming from a 'religious' standpoint, but straight psychology....you know, science, that you come off as putting your beliefs in...when it suits your explanations, and excuses for your attitudes toward others who don't believe, or disbelieve, as you do!!
Very Catholic mindset, wouldn't you say??
Now, instead of getting all huffy, as a re-action, take a moment and reflect on what I just laid out for you...it is accurate..and didn't cost you a penny....or 'tithe'...just a little bit of inward looking honesty.

Fair enough?

GfS