My apologies if my flippant attempt to precis 1000 years of history caused offence. I was merely trying to make it clear that the nation that finally acheived some sort of democracy in the early twentieth century was not the same as the England that came into being in the ninth century. The first version of Scotland appeared around the same time only later "absorbing" considerable portions of the Kingdoms of Strathclyde and Northumberland by conquest. Unfotunately, this gave Teribus the opportunity of wriggling out of the point that he expects the arbitrary nations formed at the whim of lazy cartographers to achieve in 70 to 100 years what the UK only did (after a fashion) in a thousand years.
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