I have to say that I'm completely amazed how famous Stan became! We attended College of Marin when we first met in the early sixties. We became instant best friends. He was the shittiest guitar player in the world! I struggled to teach him flat picking and we would spend hours on my deck in Woodacre, Cal., drinking the cheapest red wine we could find and play and sing together. I later lived with him and Judy(Grossenbacker) in Ashland,Or.. We played for beer and pizza at high end venues around town. We both eventually drifted back to the Bay Area around '65 or '66. I served in the MSTS in Vietnam and Stan became a longshoreman. I got married after 'Nam and Stan was my best man! My bride-to-be cried because Stan had such long hair. I was so pissed off at Stan because he cut his hair for the wedding?! Anyway, he will always be Stan to me(and his Dad) because I am Harry. thanks for listening...