"May I also respectfully suggest that you look a little further than 'The Lion in Winter' for historical insights?" Sorry - confusing my Kigs and The lion in Winter didn't really come into it - it came from my researching the ballads, Queen Eleanor's Confession and Fair Rosamond and mixing the names up. Thanks fotr the heads up "Twat." (also "mindless stwats on a recently closed thread) Smiley aside Iains, it's gratuitous insultinglike this, schoolyard bullying and hit-'n-run postings that have dragged some of these discussion to gutter level and have got threads closed I suggest that steering clear of such childish behaviour and replacing it with adult argument might just raise it back to the level it used to be Jim Carroll
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