"Are you attempting to put forward the line that none of those people died?" Have I ever said that? I am suggesting that some of the deaths may well have been due to Stalin's inept leadership but the accusation of deliberate murder has never been proved and if it is true, them every world leader who had mishandled famines and floods and other natural disasters or has sent generations of young men to war for gain are equally guilty of murder The numbers game, both with Russia and Cina are a joke as both involved massive populations - the USSR was a former Empire, not even one country Bohe were attempts to imprve the lot of everybody in states that were already deeply poverty stricken and both were reigned by oppressive regimes that treated the people like shit. The ideals of both revolutions was to move to a more equitable society - Stalin adopted the peasant solution - "if you want to make an omelette, you have to break eggs" His attitude may have come from his Georgian peasant background, but it could just as well come from his Jesuit training - he was a failed priest So far, you haven't even approached this from a common-sense point of view, let alone provide evidence You present a revolutionary people as a bunch of battery hens passively awaiting slaughter and kissing the blade that slits their throat Doesn't even make sense to me Katyn Wood was secretly ordered by Beria - if you wish to argue that he was a killer I have no argument with that
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