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beardedbruce BS: Las Vegas - 59 dead so far (267* d) RE: BS: Las Vegas - 59 dead so far 04 Oct 17


"they are all to often in the hands of people that should not have them."

The numbers show that the UK has NO SUBSTANTIALLY BETTER rate of murders per gun than the US has. Yes, we have more guns, but you have as many murders PER GUN as wee do- AFTER ALL YOUR vetting of owners.



"If we are to remain a nation where the right to bear arms is constitutionally protected, we're going to have to live with the possibility, maybe even the probability, that legally-obtained weapons will sometimes be used for a bad purpose by insane or evil people. If we want to be a country where gun violence is reduced drastically, then we will also have to be one where ownership of legal weapons is restricted to a privileged few rather than a right all citizens enjoy.

Those who support the Second Amendment must be honest about the price of the liberty they cherish. But those who wish to deprive us of that right must also be honest about what they want. The Second Amendment exists because the Founders believed giving the monopoly on firearms to the state was a prescription for tyranny. Is that a risk most of us wish to run?

Many Americans do wish to relegate the Second Amendment to the trash heap of history. Perhaps many would like to trade some of their liberty for fewer worries about gun violence. But if liberals want to talk about gun control, rather than more disingenuous nonsense about background checks, that's the argument they should be forced to make.

Anything short of that is a waste of our time. Until the left directly addresses their desire to change the Constitution and end gun rights altogether, their rhetoric about gun violence should be ignored."

http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/04/gun-control-debate-pointless-liberals-admit-want-repeal-second-amendment/


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