But let us study the march of Carroll aided and abetted by Shaw and his pals:

1: It started with Shaw wondering how the good people of would view him and his Euros once the UK leaves the EU. My opinion was that he, and his Euros would as welcome as they were before (Mind you if Corbyn gets into No.10 the pound will tank so much that if Shaw drags himself to Madeira he'll hardly have any Euros at all - he could give lectures on "flocking grouse")

2: I mentioned that the Anglo-Portuguese alliance was the oldest treaty in existence which prompted Carroll into a rant about Salazar being a fascist. That led to the revelation that Salazar actually jailed fascists in Portugal so all of a sudden Salazar was dropped and Franco and Pinochet appeared on the scene.

3: We were then all astounded to here that Augusto Pinochet was the mentor of Margaret Thatcher would you believe (I didn't and don't) But neither Carroll, Shaw or any of the other "usual suspects" could pinpoint at what time this mentoring commenced. After repeatedly failing to provide that information Pinochet rather embarrassingly dropped out of the equation, much like Salazar - So now we are left with Franco and fortunately it would appear that Shaw is running out of steam on that one as well.

Fransico Franco: A conservative and a monarchist, he opposed the abolition of the monarchy and the establishment of a socialist secular republic in 1931. Franco won the Spanish Civil War that started in 1936 as a result of a failed coup by the military and from 1939 he pursued a policy of neutrality and isolationism. He established a military dictatorship, which he defined as a totalitarian state. Communists and left-wing critics called his regime "fascist", but academics typically categorize it as conservative and authoritarian. The regime changed its policies in the mid 1950s and due to those changes Spain became the second-fastest growing economy in the world between 1959 and 1973, just behind Japan. This broadly based economic boom was known as "The Spanish Miracle". During the 1960s, the wealthy classes of Francoist Spain experienced further increases in wealth, particularly those who remained politically faithful, while a burgeoning middle class became visible as the "economic miracle" progressed. International firms established factories in Spain, State-owned firms like the car manufacturer SEAT, truck builder Pegaso and oil refiner INH, massively expanded production. By the time of Franco's death in 1975, Spain still lagged behind most of Western Europe but the gap between its per capita GDP and that of the leading Western European countries had narrowed greatly, and the country had developed a large industrialised economy.