Dave apparently wants me to lay out my wares as if I was selling frocks

I said no such thing and challenge you to link to where I did. What I did say is that is something works, it will thrive. If it does't work, it will fall by the wayside.

But, yes Vic, you are right. Sadly, what I know will happen now is that we will be told we are insulting or patronising, we do not want to enter into serious discussion and we have lost the argument. There is someone else who does this but Jim will not like the similie.

DtG