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Steve Shaw BS: Post Brexit life in the UK (6498* d) RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK 11 Nov 17


That James O'Brien piece chimed with me too. I think that as time goes on it's going to dawn on more and more people that the country is heading for disaster. Our trade with the rest of the world is declining (see this month's figures), we are net importers of goods and always will be, the biggest chunk of our trade is with EU countries and always will be, but even the very best deal imaginable with them will be a damn sight poorer than the one we have now. There is no long queue of countries waiting to buy our expensive goods when countries such as China and India can mop up the customers at half the price and all of the quality. Even with low or no EU tariffs (a pipe-dream), we will be subject to their trading rules in all kinds of ways and we will have no say. I'm betting there there are even people posting to this thread as ardent brexiteers who secretly see the truth, watching the catastrophe unfold as they realise that the EU holds all the cards and is going to give us nothing like the deal we want and desperately need. Pour encourager les autres and all that. There's a lot of hubris around, a lot of people who, if they don't already, are going to realise what a blunder the referendum was and what their decision was. A lot of them will be slow to abandon the hubris, drop the little-Englander Empire guff and finally admit it. The main political parties are paralysed on this. May and Corbyn both know that we are in deep doodah and that the leave vote was a disaster. Neither of them can admit to it because it would make them immediate electoral toast (although it's noticeable that Jeremy Corbyn has quietly dropped his "stand aside and let US do the job" mantra. That's the last thing he wants). We all have to live in this country and nobody wants to see things getting very bad. There will be no triumphalism on the remain side. I'd like to see the main parties get their heads together (the SNP and LibDems are already there) and put up a united front to the people of this country to tell us that we can't go through with this and are abandoning brexit forthwith. It was an advisory referendum after all and Article 50 can be scuppered. You may think I'm bloody loopy. Come back and tell me that in nine months' time if you dare.




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