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GUEST,Phil d'Conch	New evidence for 'shanty' origins? (48)	RE: New evidence for 'shanty' origins?	13 Jun 18
Forgot the constant reminder: “New” Naval architecture/science: The U.S. Navy galleys rowed little different from their Phoenician forebears. The Iliad, Odyssey, & Aeneid are Martial's sailors. Old Testament “trampling out the vintage…” ditto. Etymology: The ancient Greek word for 'shanty-song' was “celeusma” and the modern word is “celeusma.” The English word shanty/chantey/chanty picks up c.1800. It's vernacular not the application. Salve Regina, arguably the greatest nautical work song in the history of Western culture, is not a shanty, it's a celeusma. That's folk for ya!

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