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Raedwulf BS: 'Object!' (Upskirting) (149* d) RE: BS: 'Object!' (Upskirting) 15 Jun 18


In Scotland, Tattie, it's already an offence. The (expanded since D originally posted) article says Upskirting has been an offence in Scotland since 2010 when it was listed under the broadened definition of voyeurism.

I doubt Hansard will help, D. It's only a record of what was said in the House, isn't it? I note, from Twitter, that Philip Davies MP was a 'partner in crime', so maybe he said something more than one word? I suspect we will have to wait for Ms Martin's reportage of her planned meeting with Chope, though. I also note that, judging by Chope's Twitter (no I don't Twit, but anyone can look at it, of course), Rebecca Reid (whoever she is) is a complete fucking idiot, however personal her experience.

Final word for now. The expanded article has this to say -

Sir Christopher is a leading member of a group of backbench Conservatives who make a practice of ensuring that what they see as well-meaning but flabby legislation is not lazily plopped on to the statue book by a few MPs on a poorly attended Friday sitting. And after all this is a bill to create a new criminal offence, for which people can go to jail {my bolding}. So, however worthy the cause, he insists on proper, extensive scrutiny, and he has spent most Commons Fridays for the last 20 years doing just that.

Indeed, a few minutes before he blocked the upskirting bill, he was forcing a delay to the final debate on the Mental Health Units (Use of Force) Bill, or Seni's Law, which also had strong support from the government. The upskirting bill is not dead - there will be other opportunities to get it a formal second reading debate - but they will only succeed if Sir Christopher and his allies can be persuaded not to object again. The only other alternative is for the government to provide debating time for it, or, far more likely, to add the proposals to a bill of their own.


That, on its own, seems reasonable, if somewhat pedantic. But I'd still be interested to know what specific & particular objections Chope has to the bill.


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