It has been said often, but perhaps needs to be said again: there was nothing at all wrong with Bert adapting songs or even creating them from scratch, but what was very wrong was passing them off as having been made by and/or collected from someone else.

GUEST,Pseudonymous said "I now know that in a letter to Dave Harker, Lloyd stated that he had in fact received an incomplete text and had 'altered' it to 'accommodate bits of the incomplete text I got from Jim Denision.' "

Was Jim Denision (Denison?) the "person in Whiston, Lancs" who had "unearthed" the William Hornsby song, or was Bert saying that he had combined two incomplete versions?