"I was merely pointing out that rather than a rebellion against "trite conventions of prevailing rock & pop orthodoxies", the audience were just a bunch of kids having a good time."

The ability of web discussion groups to make enemies out of complete strangers who share the same enthusiasm is always a thing of wonder to me.

Isn't the above exactly what PFR was trying to to say? The prevailing orthodoxy in 'alternative ' music circles in the mid-70s was Prog-Rock. Kids jumping up and down to punk was - precisely - a rebellion against all that.

I remember thinking back in the 1980s that, as PFR said, there was a crossover between folk and punk, particularly the concept of 'doing music for yourself'. Incidentally, anonymous Guest, I've lived in Glossop for 36 years, and will be looking out for you at the next Buzzcocks reunion gig in town.