Hmmm ........ Sorry Joe, I do not consider that response to be rational or reasonable.

I would go further and suggest that is a reply that I would expect from someone I perceive as being very conservative. I know you claim you are not.

(Please see my previous post on that subject)

If posters on the "other" side of any discussion posted rational, reasonable and responsible posts I am sure they would receive the same in return.

However we are inundated with blogs from a source that most people consider to be a right wing agitator, posts which echo the "views" of our right wing press and often downright lies and distortions.

I will go further again and state that when the frailties of those arguments are exposed the poster will twist, turn, prevaricate, deny and move the ******** goalposts so often you end up doubting your own sanity.

I know you are aware of this as you have commented on it yourself.