Mr Red's 12 again - how many are actually well known (and do some of them actually have the same first name so need a second name or father or brothers name to distinguish them, or are known by a double first name, or even different first names in different accounts)? Go on, how many without looking them up? I used to be able to name 12 but only by thinking hard. Now in my atheist day I'm sure of 7 - ah yes 3 of the ones I was doubtful about were right (and the other was a replacement for Mr R's 11). And there were 2 with the same first name.
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