Jim C, you're still intent on an argument about MacColl. You're enytitled to do that, of course, but it is very much out of the intention of THIS thread.
You don't accept the general view that, on his own terms, he was a great collector, songwriter and contributor to the tradition, but that others have serious reservations- no-one is 100pc perfect.

I don't recall my criticising his 'mining' songs record- I presume you mean the Elliotts LP?. I'm very grateful he did that & didn't attempt a Birtley accent & record 'Little Chance' himself.

It's a valuable recording and all credit to him & PS for doing it.

You've interpreted my perfectly reasonable query about why he didn't issue his Folkways recordings of Scottish source singers as a personal attack- do you know why?

You avoided any sensible comment on the writing of Ray Davies, so Hootenanny if you think mere EVIDENCE will get anywhere with this particular closed mind, think again -   over and out.......

ps 'Water of Tyne' is 'one of'islka (sic) Cameron's songs'- really?