> If the general consensus on an international thread is that folk is alive and well then it could be that the some who beg to differ perhaps should step back and re evaluate.

Are birds dinosaurs? In the past twenty or so years, I've heard many paleontologists say they are. So are dinosaurs alive and well? I don't think so.

Except by special pleading,

Of course there's an evolutionary and physiological connection.

But in other than attention-grabbing contexts, if one likes to call birds dinosaurs and nothing else, one might either find one's sanity questioned, or else be thought of as a twit.

I'll repeat: it all depends on who you mean by Shakespeare.

Doesn't make a damn bit of difference to Shakespeare.

One further point: labeling complex things often depends on what you mean by "is" or "are."