Once again Jim you are twisting the facts - and this will be my last word on this matter. I asked that Walter be discussed elsewhere as I considered that a detailed discussion about a specific singer would clog up this thread where we want to discuss what is happening TODAY at the many clubs and other venues where people enjoy what most people here consider to be folk music. I'd never heard of the definition of 1954 and to be honest I couldn't give a monkeys about it. Time moves on and fortunately so does the music. We have a fantastically diverse and interesting folk music scene at the moment and I am glad I am living at a time where the music is blossoming and access to it is easier than ever.

If you keep on insisting on throwing in such untruths as 'Walter was thrown off because his example was an embarrassment' I'd rather you did not participate in the discussion. Your contributions are getting in the way of what I think has been an interesting discussion. I'm sorry to have to say this but I am reaching the end of my tether