I'm sorry Sandman. I had no intention of excluding you - needless to say.

I DO think though, that Jim isn't an isolated voice. There is a vein of discontent in traddy circles that doesn't want to be bothered with 'trivial' characters like myself. And I accept this.

I DO think you need a title for your music that tells people like me to bugger off, and frankly merely 'folk' has slipped into common usage as meaning anything from Robbie Williams to an acoustic guitar accompaniment, to the Copper family.

I think the problem is essentially yours , rather than mine - although it impinges on me - I don't want to inflict myself and my music where its not wanted. Perhaps if you called yourself Ethnic Folk Music Clubs.

When you have drawn up your battle lines, then you start to fight your corner. And I think you will have great success, because its a middle class enclave really and the middle classes really kick ass in our society. They set the agendas. You will be able to campaign for your radio stations and TV channels, and government grants.

The sessions in England are (lets face it !) a bit of a rabble. Anyone who can scrape sixty quid to gether for a playable guitar can join in, and it IS Come All Ye. Politically - they will always be meaningless, because its about people's artistic need to express themselves - rather than having an intellectual core - an ideology.