bwm - interesting read, thanks. but the way things are going is very depressing. for a time where i work (workington) there seems a lot of hostility to labour and a more generalised distrust of anyone taking a more thoughtful, balanced view from the tory media line. easy talk of traitors, remoaners etc readily leads to hostility. we could move - if we could sell the house. what's happened to us - it doesn't feel that long since the opening ceremony to the london olympics but the mood is very different now, and scary