Hey Skeptic,

You said; "Before blasting the liberal media (and it does exist"

Well thank you for validating this fact in front of your buddies

"(and it does exist, just as its counterpart)"

Could you please name all of this obvious and equally large mainstream entity?

I had said; "You were aware that the Soviet Communists, Nazis, Chicoms and Cambodians as well as Castro were mass murderers weren't you?"

You said; "Most of the people I've run into on Mudcat are fairly well read and have a pretty good sense of history"

Then why doesn't (David) Kendall seem to know about the rape testimony and evidence given to the House managers or the bombing of the Asprin factory designed soley to mask the news coverage of the Monica testimony?

He just declares me stupid, ignores the charge and otherwise flames.

"Speaking for myself, yes, I'm very aware of what the groups you list did"

Once again thank you for validating my assertions.

"As I'm aware of what the US Government did to the Native Americans"

I'm not real crazy about that either, both having family and having spent quite a bit of time, on the Rosebud and Pine Ridge reservations (Sioux/Lakota) If you want to see REAL poverty look there.

Much of that happened during the Civil War times and the proper resolution has yet to occur. "what the Allies did to Hamburg and Dresden"

My mother and grandmother were brought back from that hellhole by my GI father. We lost family in the holocaust for having consorted with Jews. "what the missionary's did to Hawaii"

and the American Indians.

I said, "The American defenders of clinton (FOBs and most democRATs) are self identified enemies of the US Constitution.

In your not so humble opinion, anyway"

Well, if you knew the above facts, then you must also have seen the FOBs on the cable news programs and all of the congressional d's (especially the House members and algor) defending clinton's every action including his sexual foibles, the lying and perjury, money from the CHICOMS etc. knowing full well the full extent of his low budget amoral and criminal behavior.

They were so proud of what a good weasel he was when he could get away with practically everything political.

Now we have even the most strident lefties jumping ship after hearing of the theft of White House property and ILLEGAL solicitation of gifts, not to mention the involvement of Hitlarys brother in obtaining a pardon for a drug dealer and of course the Marc Rich bribery scenario.

The democrats vehemently defended the guy, accusing the Republicans of lying and trying to destroy an innocent man. Now even President Carter is dumping on the felon in chief.

The pattern is now clear, we weren't wrong.

That reporter was right, clinton is a sxxxbag!

My humble opinion seems fairly well backed up.

"And you never did answer my question about the Constitution"

Troll did so just fine.

"They have every right to try to win the battle of public opinion but typically use "ends justify the means" spin tactics instead of revealing their agenda. (aka dirty pool)

Strange. That's the same charges leveled at the RR and RWE"

Another cute trick the fascists use is to accuse the opposition of exactly what they are doing to deflect the heat.

That "ends justify the means" concept is a Marxist adage and not likely to be used by patriotic Americans on the right.

"What do you think W's doing with his faith based nonsense?"

I think he's very seriously going to........

KILL PROGRAMS! and KILL DEPARTMENTS!

"Mav can be irritating"

Why thank you, I do my best.

"And sometimes thought provoking"

Geesh John, you're making me blush.

"Will either of us change? No"

Hey! We finally agree on something.

Keep up the good work (they think you're really a democrat)

mav out