Regarding Dark Arches: What I pointed out was that Jim had stated plainly om the past week or so that this was the only song Pardon ever used printed materials to fill out the words of. I pointed out that over a period of several decades either Pat and Jim or Jim alone, posting on Mudcat had made a contradictory assertion, stating that 'some' or 'several' of his pieces had been made in this way.

I am happy to discuss whether this contradictory set of messages illustrated 'mediation' as this term is used in folk music, but I am sure we could find lots of other ways to describe it.

Nobody on these threads has said that the working class had no culture. It would be a ridiculous statement to make. Harker himself said no such thing. I don't know where Jim got the idea that he did.