A bit of thread creep as its Joe Gordon's thread. But McKellar had a great hidden sense of humour. He even contributed a live Monty Python sketch. then there is a very filthy version of 'Ball of Kirriemuir' which he sings with his wonderful 'straight' trained voice (though you can hear him trying not to crack up). Anyway, a great and versatile singer who crossed a couple of genres, not just a 'warbler'. I think the ham-fisted point that Pamela Stephenson was making, was that McKellar had a formal trained voice, and often sang mannered ballads in his kilted outfit - but Joe Gordon would sing street songs in a style that anybody with a guitar could pick up and aspire to have a go at. Plus he had a great guitar for teenagers to admire. I don't mean that in a disparaging way to any party, as it's all great Scottish music.