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rich-joy The Bradshaw Chorus (aka White Cockade) (16) RE: The Bradshaw Chorus (aka White Cockade) 30 Apr 20


Thank you both!

However, I have just located a post by Catter "Scowie", who it seems was around 2009-2011 (don't know HOW I missed it before!) and they wrote (in the Odd Pub Names thread in 2009):
"Not had a mention yet is the unique "The House Without a Name" at Bradshaw near Bolton.My father who died ten years ago remembers the "Bradshaw Chorus" (He Advance-ed me a shilling, a shilling from the Crown) being sung there as a boy.I have seen the song mentioned as thus in old publications."

Of course this still doesn't prove it was evolved in Lancashire instead of Yorkshire (and not being from the British Isles, I'm not gonna go there!). I have NO idea now, just where I read about "The Bradshaw Chorus"; that's sadly lost in the mists of time, along with my youth, LoL!

I've just tried Google yet again and I don’t quite know how it works, but New-Old Things keep appearing!! :

"The Teesdale Mercury" on 20May1914 reports in its "Pickings from Punch" that : "The singing of the Bradshaw Chorus make up / broke up (?) a happy evening" - Local paper" - which could of course be merely referring to group of singers.

TURTON Through the Ages : Local History Society publication : “p30 Bradshaw Chorus (music sheet)” (sounds promising!) So that’s the Bolton, Lancs, Bradshaw then …..

The Univ of Sussex has in its collections : “Song Sheet, ms, 1p, hand written music score and verses of song "Bradshaw Chorus", Royal Oak Lodge, Bradshaw” So still Bolton, Lancs. Is that a Pub or a Masonic Lodge, I wonder?

However, Kennedy’s Folk-Trax recording #518 has a version of “The White Cockade” by a group near Richmond, West Yorks (is that near Teesdale?). Amongst his many references to versions of the song is : "The Bradshaw Chorus " - POLWARTH FSFTN 1970 pp24-25 - which I believe to be Gwen Marchant-Polwarth’s Folk Songs of the North? published Newcastle-Upon-Tyne. I don’t have access to a copy of that.

So it seems it’s hard to be conclusive from this great distance (both in miles and in time), if this alternative title for “The White Cockade” is of Yorkshire or Lancashire origin (!) but that’s okay; they’re both beautiful parts of a beautiful country (even if my heritage is more Lancky!!)

Cheers!,
R-J


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