i forget but there is an agency in us that is good for us songs. be very very careful with canadian songs. hard to find and then ownership might be with the eighth great nephew who does not even know he owns it. and they can be brutal. i will not ever deal with copyrights again in cds. either i know the person who wrote it and they allowed me to use it or it is absolutely beyond a doubt traditional. i don't mind paying but then it gets complicated if i want to just tell people to go ahead and copy some for their friends. i just don't want to go down that road again.