Ok Kat,

"Oh, whip me, daddy, whip me! Of course you don't cite any studies, of any ilk, to prove any of your statements...but that doesn't surprise me...it is always easiest to turn it around and make out as the victim with a bunch of meaningless crap..."

I assume you're talking to me. If you want to be that way, that's fine.

Don't you pay attention to anything current? Any moron could have looked this up in 2 minutes so I (your favorite moron) DID!

It's a study from the University of Minnesota, that obvious bastion of southern bible banging right wing extremist rednecks (Mondale, Humphery etc.)

The study covers much of what we already knew and more. It shows the destructive effects of your philosophy on a class of people. If you want to talk about victims, READ IT!

www.ipums.umn.edu/~ruggles/strib94.html

It might be meaningless crap, but it's YOUR meaningless crap.

"Yes, but, Kendall, if MAV et al got their way, all of the liberals, non-Christians, people of colour, homosexuals, bastards, etc would be put in concentration camps and/or eliminated and then they wouldn't have those problems at all! You know they just wouldn't have any crime amongst themselves!"

Of course you don't cite any studies, of any ilk, to prove any of your statements...but that doesn't surprise me...it is always easiest to turn it around and make out as the victim with a bunch of meaningless crap...

I have a Collie named Patty, unlike you she is very friendly and reasonable.

mav out