Punkfolkrocker.. I can imagine what'll happen when Hank Marvin eventually goes. The long Shadows Apache tribute post had a lot of that kind of division and snotty attitude. Some Mudcatters lacked understanding of the group's place in musical history. It juat wasn't to their own taste - and they couldn't stand back and see the bigger picture. Tonight I heard a brief snatch of 'Be My Baby' in a TV trailer - the fact that I heard it at all means that Spector did something that entered popular culture and still crops up. And for that skeptical party's information Spector did contribute to the song, as well as producing. It was voted one of the top Pop songs of all time etc. Anyway, on to the next death. The reaper awaits!