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Gibb Sahib Discovering world legacy of shanties by 'Shogun' (266* d) RE: Discovering world legacy of shanties by 'Shogun' 06 Mar 21


Shogun,

That seems like a very unlikely halyard song, ha! Good job trying to figure something out! I have no idea how I would know to work (haul) with that. It's so complicated. My thinking is: 99 or so percent of "halyard" chanties have the same form, so why would we have these kind of outliers? The other 1% are "short drag" or "hand over hand" form used at halyards, or else, theoretically, the regular halyard form yet with only 1 (rather than 2) pulls per chorus.

I figured Patterson was just a poet, who was including some chanty texts in his anthology of sea-themed poetry. It doesn't look like he really knew chanties or else, if he did, he changed what he knew to appear as "literature" for readers.

Here is one of many places where I think Hugill had no business quoting a source. Hugill, I think, should have been more critical of sources like this instead of saying (as it seems) "I found some verses in a book and I'll just accept them to be a quality representation of chanty tradition."

Hugill threw in "everything but the kitchen sink," as if to try to be thorough, but in actuality (my opinion) creating confusion by not being more judicious.


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