Well maybe, but there were others who perhaps attend more of the "Tradition" events at the Arts Centre than I do, but who were also left trying to listen outside through the windows. I think when there is is a special commemoration event, the size of venue as well as the expected ambience and atmosphere all need to be taken into account. 9Yes, it's a tough call!) And the line-up that night was bound to attract a large audience, whether people knew john Howson or not. (I did know of him, and have met Katie at other events).