Jim, I'm perplexed by one or two of your statements. I am the first to condemn pen and ink folklorists, but we really do not have many if any in this day and age. Bob's archive is available on the BL Sound archive (if you can get it to work!) All folksong collections took, and take, place in homes and pubs. So I am quite at a loss as to how those events did not coincide with 'authorities'. I am also wondering who the 'authorities' were. Bob's view certainly coincides with 99.9% of folklorists old and modern in my experience. So no heated discussion is necessary.