Insulting remarks about Quality singers. I am sure you can do better At which, naval science, singing or Scrabble? Forebitter is a tad older than shanty and is neither legal play nor insult. Ictus is six base points. The 'qualities' of a shanty versus a forebitter are in the application, not the singer or the song or the likes. Liking A.L.Lloyd, or anyone else, does not not make it work song. Not liking A.L. Lloyd does not give different outcomes. Still not work song. Presenting art as science is not good practice.
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