You beat me to it, Lighter. I was just about to add a link to a news article in Oz. Judge rules former US president Donald Trump defrauded banks and insurers as he built his real estate empire "Former US president Donald Trump and his family business have been found liable for fraud in a New York court "The civil case was brought Attorney General Letitia James', accusing Mr Trump of illegally inflating his assets and net worth "Ms James accused him of lying for a decade about asset values and his net worth to get better terms on bank loans and insurance" One thing I don't understand is what the judge's ruling means if a "trial is scheduled for October 2, and could last well into December". The judge has made a ruling but there will still be a trial?
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