Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafesj



User Name Thread Name Subject Posted
Robert B. Waltz Child Ballads - Yiddish versions (9) RE: Child Ballads - Yiddish versions 12 Nov 23


Felipa wrote:

This week we present a ballad type that is not to be found internationally, certainly not in the Anglo-British-American tradition – a ballad that describes the conversion of a child to the Christian faith; a shmad-ballad.

This is correct in detail but not entirely true in broader context. There are Child ballads of religious conversions -- "Young Beichan/Lord Bateman" being the most obvious. (Though there is an interesting footnote to that one in that the woman in that song is often named Sophia -- Σοφια, the Greek word for wisdom; an entirely Christian name; I wonder if the girl didn't have a Christian mother.) And there are non-Child ballads of conversion to Christianity, though too often in the face of force (e.g. Silver Jack [Laws C24]). There are also songs of refusing to convert (e.g. The Romish Lady [Laws Q32]). So the concept is common; the problem is that Jewish folk songs are a bit thin on the ground. It's a little depressing to realize that Ruth Rubin's books don't seem to have anything on the topic.


Post to this Thread -

Back to the Main Forum Page

By clicking on the User Name, you will requery the forum for that user. You will see everything that he or she has posted with that Mudcat name.

By clicking on the Thread Name, you will be sent to the Forum on that thread as if you selected it from the main Mudcat Forum page.

By clicking on the Subject, you will also go to the thread as if you selected it from the original Forum page, but also go directly to that particular message.

By clicking on the Date (Posted), you will dig out every message posted that day.

Try it all, you will see.