Bush won the election...you can argue about whether he should have and you can claim that the voting system in retrospect is flawed (even though it has always served us well and was specifically designed to support the power of each state) but you must recognize that he is president, and therefore won the election.

George Bush was able to become president and you were not able to become president...therefore in some ways he is more capable, saavy, cunning, or intelligent than you.

Nobody has addressed or even recognized Scotsbard's point that the Kyoto deal was a bad deal that did not solve the problems being addressed.

Naemanson says "UB Ed and others have brought up the question of the science behind global warming. The Repulican conservatives harp continually on the disagreement between the scientists about the warming trends." Yes kind of...Actually Ed was bringing up that some science used as support has absolutely nothing to do with global warming. Saying subterranean volcanos are the product of freon is like saying carbon dioxide causes foot and mouth disease.

Naemanson says "They disagree about the causes but the majority of them agree that humans are part of the problem"... Well I'm not willing to be culled. And I think we do need to have some idea of what the problem is before we implement solutions...Naemason also said "Sure, Kyoto wasn't enough but it was a start!" All it would do is cost the US more to have all the countries behave the exact same way they are now.

Peg says "I used to own a 76 Volvo; even the oldsters are better on mileage than the new SUV monstrosities so many people are driving..." - I'd like to see the real figures on this...I think one of us would be real suprised. In addition, The US has some of the strictist emmisions standards...catalytic converters are not required overseas.

There are real problems that need to be solved, but a majority of the people on this thread are unwilling to recognize the bulk of history that existed prior to this year and have now concluded that all pollution is due to George W. Bush driving an SUV.