Gnu, you may be right...my last post is a little ascerbic...Kat, "amoral" really was a typo of "a morally", I'm sorry if you thought it was meant otherwise. And in my last post I could have said what I meant without resorting to a personal attack. I just became frustrated when you said that I read whatever I wanted into people's remarks...but I understand how you could have been frustrated by my amoral vs a moral mistake.