Well, that stirred a few up didn't it...I agree about respect to an extent; seems to me that most of us are really revivalists in one way or another who are doing our best to be part of a living tradition. One thing only is unforgiveable, and should be graven in stone: Thou shalt not, and I really mean this, change something you don't understand out of ignorance or sheer idleness. Our forbears and those who made these songs were not careless people. Go forth and damn well find out. What caught my eye was the very first message: "Castors away" makes perfect sense. A castor is a hat - take it off, throw it in the air, cheer... Keep the faith Chris