. . . and then of course, there's always Lurch, the butler from "The Addams Family." Not to be confused with any of the above.
i apologize if my rant on Folk Alliance seemed overwhelmingly negative. It was just that I didn't have any old friends there . . . and [with a few wonderful exceptions], not many people seemed interested in striking up a friendship! For the record, I usually don't behave so badly myself. My cohorts and I just got very scared and confused about the kinds of relationships and interactions that are awaiting us in the wide world of folk. Hope it's better than all that.