Carol... Those were the posts I was refering to...the ones made in threads just after sept 11... :) I am just as guilty as anyone by lumping people together. Sometimesjust out of laziness. When refer to those on the other side, I mean anyone who has different opinions. When we first started talking about this, you and I had completely different views. While we still do, I have an easier time with you because you have posted your ideas. I think there are some people that are just entering this very late in the debate that don't really want to read all 14 chapters of the America Attacks thread....

I know that we all have different opinions on how things should be done. When I say the other side, I am refering to the basic idea of using force or not. I think there are many that say force is needed but not desired. But we have exauhsted all reasonable attempts to avoid military action. It does not mean that we are enemies, or that we can never agree... I suppose I am just tired, and my thoughts are rambling, sorry if it is not making sense.

Actually Carol, of all the posts that have been made, I appreciate yours most. They are well thought out and you made good points. I'm much more prone to listen to you than someone I have just seen start posting that decides to blast away at "Hawks" because their notion of achieving peace is different from thiers. Sorry if it seemed that way, that and I'm tired so don't try to make too much sense of what I have written, it is likely to cause your eyes to bleed.

Just a really tired nobody.