If I thought that ending US involvement - either military or otherwise - in the Middle East would bring peace to the world, I might have to consider it. But it wouldn't. this is a fight that was brought to the US, which is why comparisons to the Viet Nam conflict are beside the point.

I said I would "consider it", rather than "be all for it" because I really don't think that "Peace" is a goal. It is a state that is achieved at times as we evolve as a species; and we have a lot of evolving to do before we even come close to it. I don't believe that Peace, achieved by forfeiting the Middle East to the Taliban or other fundamentalist groups, is something to be desired.

Guest - Virginity is a temporary state that most of us have a biological urge to leave as soon as is practical. Chastity is a choice you make, and in my mind an anti-human one. Neither relates at all to my point. At times the way to secure a real state of peace, even if it is only temporary, is by eliminating those who choose to break the peace to achieve their ends. It's unfortunate. It's not, contrary to what some may state, our first choice. Perhaps we have simply run out of cheeks to turn.

Have a great eveneing, folks.

Bart