Ye learn something every day, I thought LOL meant 'Loyal Orange Lodge' - so that explains why they don't come with numbers on the Mudcat. The French love acronyms - they seem to proceed to them once a phrase contains more than 3 words. My other half is connected with 2 organisations with particularly lovely acronyms 'PEEP' and 'CLAP' - naughty lot indeed, these French... and completely barmy...bien sur...
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